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Sustain
Sept 16, 2013 11:21:30 GMT
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Post by Sean on Sept 16, 2013 11:21:30 GMT
So, I know this is an age old question, but I wanted to know what you all do to increase sustain. I put this in general gear because I figured it was a mixture of amps, guitars, and effects.
The rig I'm running that needs a little sustain is with my jcm 800 and les paul. I'm running a marshall jackhammer, delay, and reverb through it. I currently have an eq, ts9, bd2, and phaser I could also throw in.
Ideas?
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Post by SirTrashBeard on Sept 16, 2013 12:57:03 GMT
You know what? I didn't think of this the first time you asked me. What strings are you using? Gauge and brand
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Post by Sean on Sept 16, 2013 13:12:59 GMT
D'darrios, 11's
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Post by SirTrashBeard on Sept 16, 2013 13:50:46 GMT
Damn. I would say go thicker but...putting .12s on would most likely require a truss rod adjustment and that's too much just to try a new string gauge.
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Sustain
Sept 16, 2013 14:28:19 GMT
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Post by Sean on Sept 16, 2013 14:28:19 GMT
Yea... I found the tone I want, it just lacks sustain for lead playing. I got the amp retubed and the jackhammer is a good boost. I don't know what to do from there. I've heard of compressors, but I need dynamics.
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Post by SirTrashBeard on Sept 16, 2013 15:04:27 GMT
You need to be turned up LOUD. That's the answer. Being near that loud ass amp will give you that "starting to feedback" sustain you're after.
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Post by Sean on Sept 16, 2013 15:15:57 GMT
The master volume is on 7-8
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Post by Ryan on Sept 16, 2013 16:09:42 GMT
What kind of bridge is on your guitar? Is it a bolt-on or neck thru? Those are both questions related to systain. A good way to compensate is to use a compressor/sustainer pedal very lightly.
And FYI: 12's require you drop a 1/2 step in tuning right across.. Too much tension.
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Sustain
Sept 16, 2013 16:15:34 GMT
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Post by Sean on Sept 16, 2013 16:15:34 GMT
Its a bolt on I believe.
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Post by Ryan on Sept 16, 2013 16:35:11 GMT
Know what kind of trem or tailpiece? Usually anything with a tremolo will have less sustain.. And anything string-thru will have the most sustain.. With tuno-o-matics, wrap-arounds, and everything else similar falling in between. Typically, neck-thrus and set necks are said to have more sustain then bolt-ons. I do agree with Trashy up there.. Playing louder will give you more sustain.. Kind of. The only reason it seems like you're getting more sustain is because you're increasing (my analogy here) the height of the roof in the room. Think of it as tossing a ball up in the air in a room with a ceiling. The taller the ceiling is, the longer it takes it to fall.. Even if the same effort is put into how hard you throw the ball. So you throw the ball as hard as you can at a 10 foot ceiling.. It hits the roof, then falls to the ground in 5 seconds. You use the same kind of force to throw the same ball at a ceiling at a height of 20 feet. It takes 10 seconds for it to hit the ground after hitting the ceiling.. And so on. You strum a chord with force. Your volume is at say, 3. It takes 15 seconds for the sound to die down. Using the same force, you strum a chord with your volume on 6 and it takes 25 seconds for the sound to die down. All you're going is increasing the roof to allow more time for the reaction of your action. Throwing Ball (Action) > Hits Ceiling and Falls to Ground (Reaction) Strum a Chord (Action) > Chord Dies Down to Quiet (Reaction) Perhaps that will help understand Thrashy's method for more sustain, haha.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 16:51:57 GMT
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Sustain
Sept 16, 2013 17:03:15 GMT
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Post by Sean on Sept 16, 2013 17:03:15 GMT
The neck itself is throughbody. Ill see how it goes when I get home.
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Post by SirTrashBeard on Sept 16, 2013 17:07:58 GMT
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Post by SirTrashBeard on Sept 16, 2013 18:49:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 18:52:24 GMT
I think he should just stick with a compressor, like the one I linked.
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